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May 8[edit]
May 8, 2024
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RD: Oleksandr Pielieshenko[edit]
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:
- Nominated by BilledMammal (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Yulia Romero (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
BilledMammal (talk) 03:56, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose article is a stub and Major results section is unsourced. PrinceofPunjabTALK 09:37, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose it is a stub article. LiamKorda 15:27, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
May 6[edit]
May 6, 2024
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RD: Joe Collier[edit]
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NBC Sports
Credits:
- Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
American Football coach.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 22:43, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
RD: Hootie Ingram[edit]
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ESPN
Credits:
- Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
American football player.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 00:34, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Head coaching record section does not have any source. PrinceofPunjabTALK 09:38, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- Can you please take a look added references.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 12:56, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support - looks good enough now. Thanks Pharaoh of the Wizards! ✈ mike_gigs talkcontribs 13:48, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support - Sourcing meets requirements. Jusdafax (talk) 17:28, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
RD: Kristin Hallenga[edit]
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times ,BBC Guardian
Credits:
- Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Death reported on Monday 6th.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 22:03, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support article looks fine to me. PrinceofPunjabTALK 09:39, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support - good enough ✈ mike_gigs talkcontribs 13:32, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support - The article is ready to post to RD. Jusdafax (talk) 17:20, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) 2024 World Snooker Championship[edit]
Blurb: Kyren Wilson defeats Jak Jones to win the 2024 World Snooker Championship (Post)
Credits:
- Nominated by Lee Vilenski (talk · give credit)
Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:46, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
- Almost ready. The tense needs changing from future to past in at least the final section. Schwede66 21:38, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, yeah, it had literally only just finished, I think I have it all now. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 23:09, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support, looks like the tense has been changed. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 22:01, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support, just like with the 2024 Derby. 2604:3D08:9476:BE00:E1BE:DE23:DB02:9B82 (talk) 22:57, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support, looks good to go. The Kip 23:12, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment I won't let this get in the way of a well sourced, prose-filled ITNR sport result from being posted, but daaaaamn that is a heck of a lot of prose. I tried reading (not a big pool/snookers player) and my eyes glazed over. That probably can be trimmed down some where the prose and tables work hand in hand to summarize the results. This is only a comment and should not be treated as a oppose !vote. --Masem (t) 01:32, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- The previous six years of FAs seems to suggest this is how we should lay out these articles. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 06:23, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- This is a problem with many of the sports articles on Wikipedia. Too many of our editors think of themselves as sports journalists, and the articles bloat with endless trivia and unnecessary play-by-play. 128.91.40.237 (talk) 13:35, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- If you think prose about an event is unnecessary, we're going to have to agree to disagree. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 13:42, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- I think it's a very well written article with appropriate levels of detail on the different rounds and good referencing. The prose summaries provide factual statements and a few quotes from the players, without engaging in subjective judgements or excessive details. It makes sense to me for the paragraphs on the final to provide more granular information than the earlier rounds. There are 4800 words of prose, which is fine for an encyclopaedia article covering the entire tournament (not just the final). The only part that might be a bit overdone is in describing the qualifying rounds, but that's nitpicking. Overall it's a very good article to feature on the Main Page. Modest Genius talk 13:53, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- Again, stressing this is not a pull request: it is just that the early sections have a combination of sea of blue links and stats in rather long paragraphs. This would be a situation that mingling tables between sections of prose both help situate the prose better as well as visually breaking up the prose. I am absolutely pleased to see a sports article with this much prose to discuss what actually happened and backed with sources, but this is not a very reader friendly approach, at least to one looking from outside the snooker world. — Masem (t) 13:59, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- I would much rather see lots of text about the event that explains it rather than just tables and stats, like a lot of sports articles try to get away with, and this is way more consistent with MOS:PROSE than most other sports articles. Yes there is lots of text, but all of it is relevant text and so is fine. We should be encouraging articles, especially sports articles, nominated here to have prose rather than endless amounts of tables. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:08, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- Again, stressing this is not a pull request: it is just that the early sections have a combination of sea of blue links and stats in rather long paragraphs. This would be a situation that mingling tables between sections of prose both help situate the prose better as well as visually breaking up the prose. I am absolutely pleased to see a sports article with this much prose to discuss what actually happened and backed with sources, but this is not a very reader friendly approach, at least to one looking from outside the snooker world. — Masem (t) 13:59, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- Posted Stephen 01:47, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
RD: Bernard Pivot[edit]
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Le Monde
Credits:
- Nominated by Jmanlucas (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Spectritus (talk · give credit), 184.144.159.169 (talk · give credit) and Csurla (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
French journalist notably for Le Figaro. Jmanlucas (talk) 18:17, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Needs more sources. Will work on it tomorrow if it's not well-cited by then. Sincerely, Dilettante 01:34, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Spelling championship and filmography sections are entirely unsourced. PrinceofPunjabTALK 09:40, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
RD: Brian Wenzel[edit]
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): 9News
Credits:
- Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:D0D0:C67F:3541:9590 (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Kelisi (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Australian actor. 240F:7A:6253:1:D0D0:C67F:3541:9590 (talk) 17:44, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Weak oppose needs more references. Aydoh8 (talk | contribs) 23:10, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose unsourced Filmography and some cn tags. PrinceofPunjabTALK 09:41, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
(Closed) 2024 U.S. University protests/occupations[edit]
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Blurb: Protests against the Israel-Hamas War shut down several college campuses in the United States. (Post)
Credits:
- Nominated by PrecariousWorlds (talk · give credit)
- Oppose The article says that "Protests, including rallies, demonstrations, campaigns, and vigils relating to the Israel–Hamas war have occurred across the U.S. since the conflict's start on October 7, 2023". And the latest flare-up is dated "April 17" which is over two weeks ago. So, this is clearly an ongoing issue rather than something new. And we already have an umbrella ongoing entry. Andrew🐉(talk) 11:34, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Opposefor largely the same reasons. This is an ongoing item covered by the ongoing entry. Noah, BSBATalk 11:57, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Covered by ongoing. Editor 5426387 (talk) 12:31, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. Didn't we just have an ITN candidate like this? Anyways, covered by ongoing, nothing else to say. The 🏎 Corvette 🏍 ZR1(The Garage) 12:53, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Mention in Ongoing, we could have something like Ongoing: Israel–Hamas war (protests). The protests are related, but not an event in the war itself, and their intensity means mentioning them under the umbrella of the main ongoing item. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 12:58, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose: Protests are very common and happen across the globe all the time including in relation to Israel/Palestine. What makes this particular sub-set of these notable? The number of people involved are small and universities are not inherently more important than any other institutions. It appears to be almost entirely restricted to one country. This is very much not May 68. —Brigade Piron (talk) 13:14, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support
+ Ongoingeditors keep citing that it's covered by ongoing, but how? last i checked (a few days ago), these protests didn't even have a mention in the I-H ongoing article. Perhaps these are mentioned (now), but given the scale and persistence of these protests in the news this likely deserves a blurb on its ownOR it's own mention as a standalone ongoing article. (I actually opposed the nom several days ago, citing ongoing, but have since changed my stance on it given the recent developments). Kcmastrpc (talk) 13:16, 6 May 2024 (UTC)- We have to recognize that ongoing that last for months are going to have a main topic article and then numerous sub articles under that. As long as the protests are linked and referenced in that hierarchy, then ongoing covers this. — Masem (t) 14:58, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- OK, I was able to find it down a couple of nested links. I believe the duration and breadth of coverage of this specific subset of events in the broader ongoing warrants a blurb. I've redacted the ongoing nom, that can always be revisited later if these protests continue throughout the next several weeks. Kcmastrpc (talk) 16:07, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- We have to recognize that ongoing that last for months are going to have a main topic article and then numerous sub articles under that. As long as the protests are linked and referenced in that hierarchy, then ongoing covers this. — Masem (t) 14:58, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- oppose and snow close It was very clear why the previous nomination was not successful. It is absurd to try again. Not notable enough, not ITN-worthy and covered by ongoing. Nothing changed. _-_Alsor (talk) 13:31, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Stop abusing SNOW. There are support votes and other proposals to include it in ongoing. Discussion is still going on, closing it prematurely is silly. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 15:26, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- No one here is abusing SNOW. It is entirely rational in this nomination to ask for it. And there is only 1 support vote over 8 clear opplses...this means something. _-_Alsor (talk) 15:47, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- We are discussing whether or not to put it on ongoing as well. It is far too soon to close. There is literally no reason to rush through this nom, let people have a discussion. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 18:43, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- There was already a debate a few days ago, things were explained and nothing has changed. The majority position of the editors was clear. _-_Alsor (talk) 20:18, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, even if I personally wouldn't mind adding it to Ongoing (although I don't feel too strongly about it either way), it's pretty clear that the majority here is still against it, and I wouldn't oppose a SNOW close. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 20:35, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- SNOW is for overly bureaucratic and unproductive processes that slow down Wikipedia, I don't see how this discussion being up is really that big of a deal. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 21:30, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, even if I personally wouldn't mind adding it to Ongoing (although I don't feel too strongly about it either way), it's pretty clear that the majority here is still against it, and I wouldn't oppose a SNOW close. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 20:35, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- There was already a debate a few days ago, things were explained and nothing has changed. The majority position of the editors was clear. _-_Alsor (talk) 20:18, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- We are discussing whether or not to put it on ongoing as well. It is far too soon to close. There is literally no reason to rush through this nom, let people have a discussion. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 18:43, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- No one here is abusing SNOW. It is entirely rational in this nomination to ask for it. And there is only 1 support vote over 8 clear opplses...this means something. _-_Alsor (talk) 15:47, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Stop abusing SNOW. There are support votes and other proposals to include it in ongoing. Discussion is still going on, closing it prematurely is silly. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 15:26, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose and snow close These were already nominated and rejected just over a week ago, and they’re on the downswing anyways. The Kip 14:46, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose - Still pretty minor compared to the actual thing they're protesting about. (But yes, please stop calling for SNOW.) GenevieveDEon (talk) 15:34, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose I thought we already had something like this that didn't get posted? Regardless, its covered by ongoing Hungry403 (talk) 01:15, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
2024 Panamanian general election[edit]
Blurb: José Raúl Mulino (pictured) is elected President of Panama. (Post)
News source(s): Yahoo, as, Telemetro
Credits:
- Nominated by Yoblyblob (talk · give credit)
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
Not mathematically possible for the opponent to win at this stage. Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 02:25, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose on quality as article still feels bare-bones - there's no prose on the results/aftermath. The Kip 04:11, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Not yet, article is still missing a lot, and even the list of candidates looks like it hasn't been updated. The "Conduct" section is literally a single sentence. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 23:40, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Wait article needs expansion. PrinceofPunjabTALK 09:43, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
(Closed) Closest finish in NASCAR History[edit]
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Blurb: Kyle Larson wins over Chris Buescher in the closest NASCAR Finish ever. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Kyle Larson wins the closest NASCAR finish ever.
News source(s): AP, ESPN, USA Today, NASCAR.com, Washington Post,
Credits:
- Nominated by Meganinja202 (talk · give credit)
- Oppose This is not ITNR. That is for the cumulative winner of the whole of the NASCAR cup, not for any individual race. And while non-ITNR items can be posted, a trivial win (the closest-ever match) is simply not good ITN material, and may be better suited for DYK if the article qualifies there. --Masem (t) 04:05, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- The last closest finsh was 21 years ago, its a event that pratically happens once a decade or two, if ever may happen again Meganinja202 (talk) 04:15, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Trivial, per above. The Kip 04:10, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose and move for SNOW parochial, sports, trivia This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 04:42, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- There had been a few sports stuff added, once was litterally 2 days ago, i dont think that is a reason to opposite
- Also its a theme that certainly will bust the NASCAR bubble in the week, thus i think that is notable enough to be in the News, as i said, is something that happens rearly, once a blue moon., so i dont think is parochial ethier Meganinja202 (talk) 05:33, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- I think most people using the word "parochial" here would be addressing the fact that's it's an event that's purely internal to the USA. I know that's not enough on it's own to prevent posting, but do we even know what the closest result ever in Formula One racing was? HiLo48 (talk) 05:42, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- The 1971 Italian Grand Prix was the the closest in F1 history was 0.01 seconds. The winning margin in the race in question in this nomination, the 2024 AdventHealth 400, was 0.001 seconds. Howard the Duck (talk) 07:17, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- That was the 1971 Italian Grand Prix and there's an article for that whereas this NASCAR event doesn't seem to have a specific article. Andrew🐉(talk) 07:38, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- The NASCAR race in question is 2024 AdventHealth 400. Howard the Duck (talk) 07:43, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- So, that ought to be the target article, right? Andrew🐉(talk) 08:02, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- That's right. Howard the Duck (talk) 08:53, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- So, that ought to be the target article, right? Andrew🐉(talk) 08:02, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- The NASCAR race in question is 2024 AdventHealth 400. Howard the Duck (talk) 07:43, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- I think most people using the word "parochial" here would be addressing the fact that's it's an event that's purely internal to the USA. I know that's not enough on it's own to prevent posting, but do we even know what the closest result ever in Formula One racing was? HiLo48 (talk) 05:42, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose as trivial. In particular, size of victory margin is not something the competitors are being evaluated on. While it's exciting for the observers, it doesn't make a difference to the result. (It is parochial, but I'm disinclined to oppose sports results just because the sport in question is overwhelmingly popular in only one or two countries. What goes for sumo also goes for NASCAR.) GenevieveDEon (talk) 09:51, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
May 5[edit]
May 5, 2024
(Sunday)
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RD: César Luis Menotti[edit]
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:
- Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Unknown Temptation (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
World Cup winning Football coach.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 00:19, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
Wait The article is in really bad shape (there's a cn and most paragraphs are a single sentence or line), but I'll try to fix it a bit to make presentable Cambalachero (talk) 02:00, 6 May 2024 (UTC)Oppose: I will not get into a content dispute over an article I hardly care about. The article takes a cherry-picked phrase Menotti said once and uses it to paint him as a socialist, which goes against WP:BALANCE. Truth is, Menotti never made a big deal of his political ideas or engaged in political disputes (compare with Diego Maradona#Political views). Also, the lead image is not free in the United States (it was not free in Argentina at the URAA date) and should be deleted from Commons. Cambalachero (talk) 12:15, 6 May 2024 (UTC)- This is probably a discussion for another time and place but I thought Commons was for files that are free, no ifs, no buts. It's very odd that so many Gráfico files are on Commons if they are not entirely free. I know that Italy also has shorter copyright dates and on Italian Wikipedia, there are many files used that are PD in Italy but not in the USA, ergo they are not hosted on Commons. Unknown Temptation (talk) 15:05, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Long story short: the URAA was challenged as violating the constitution of the US, the Wikimedia Foundation understood that it was not in force, so photos under licenses such as PD-AR-Photo were uploaded in droves. The Supreme Court ratified the URAA in 2012, so a huge number of photos (such as all PD-AR-Photo newer than 1970) are no longer acceptable. That's a huge backlog to process, especially because of Commons' admins wanting to do it case by case instead of en masse. Cambalachero (talk) 16:35, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- This is probably a discussion for another time and place but I thought Commons was for files that are free, no ifs, no buts. It's very odd that so many Gráfico files are on Commons if they are not entirely free. I know that Italy also has shorter copyright dates and on Italian Wikipedia, there are many files used that are PD in Italy but not in the USA, ergo they are not hosted on Commons. Unknown Temptation (talk) 15:05, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support Not to beep my own horn but I've made some quite substantial improvements to the page. There may be opinions that there is too much attention given to his political views, but it is true that he held left-wing views, no matter how much he said or didn't say about them. See the academic article "The social, political, and economic causes of violence" by Eugenio Paradiso: "Ironically, Menotti was a communist." That article is from 2009, two years before the book that is cited on Wikipedia. Menotti was a known leftist who had a highly public role that was exploited by a right-wing dictatorship, that is undoubtedly notable. Unknown Temptation (talk) 18:35, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support: the article might use some minor tweaks with citations and syntax, but looks alright overall! Oltrepier (talk) 19:37, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support Article looks good enough for posting. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 20:38, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- The article is still using photos with problematic copyright status. In fact, even more of those than when I made the comment. Cambalachero (talk) 13:43, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: All Menotti-related photos with unsuitable licenses have been nominated for deletion at Commons:Commons:Deletion requests/Menotti. Cambalachero (talk) 15:44, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
(Ready) RD: Obi Ezeh[edit]
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Sports Illustrated
Credits:
- Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
American Football player.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 00:17, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support - This is a GA so should be posted pretty quickly ✈ mike_gigs talkcontribs 13:39, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support - Following Darius Morris (also nominated here), this makes two. Also disheartening.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:07, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
RD: Frank Shrontz[edit]
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Seattle Times
Credits:
- Nominated by Duke of New Gwynedd (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Former corporate executive and government official. Duke of New Gwynedd (talk | contrib.) 15:37, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Bernard Hill[edit]
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:
- Nominated by Ollieisanerd (talk · give credit)
- Created by 24.80.211.63 (talk · give credit)
- Updated by TuringBox (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: British actor. Filmography unsourced but I'll see if I can find some references. Ollieisanerd (talk • contribs) 14:01, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support I found a CV on his talent agency's website (they are mentioned in news reports as announcing his death) and used it to fill in most of the missing references. Johndavies837 (talk) 20:31, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support looks well sourced. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:40, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support - Filmography section could use a couple more sources, but I don't think its enough to stop this from being posted ✈ mike_gigs talkcontribs 13:36, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support Article looks good enough for posting. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 16:24, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment It'd be preferable to use independent sources for his filmography, instead of heavily citing his CV from his talent agency.—Bagumba (talk) 17:46, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- You think they are incorrect? Martinevans123 (talk) 17:53, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- WP:REPUTABLE is a basic guideline:
—Bagumba (talk) 00:27, 7 May 2024 (UTC)Articles should be based on reliable, independent, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy.
- That's referring to articles in a general sense, and if followed literally would invalidate WP:RSPRIMARY, WP:SELFSOURCE, etc. In this specific context, I don't think it's a problem to use a primary source even if secondary sources are always preferred. Ed [talk] [OMT] 04:12, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- It's not a black or white issue. There is a place for non-indy sources, but I'll stand by that it's not preferable when indys exist. It was intentionally marked a "comment", and while this might be "good enough" for ITN purposes, I hope its not disputed that PR firms sometimes exaggerate, whether or not it was an issue here. Anyways, it is posted. Best. —Bagumba (talk) 05:10, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- That's referring to articles in a general sense, and if followed literally would invalidate WP:RSPRIMARY, WP:SELFSOURCE, etc. In this specific context, I don't think it's a problem to use a primary source even if secondary sources are always preferred. Ed [talk] [OMT] 04:12, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- WP:REPUTABLE is a basic guideline:
- You think they are incorrect? Martinevans123 (talk) 17:53, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Posted. Black Kite (talk) 18:02, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- ‘Farewell, Master Holbytla!’ [Théoden] said. ‘My body is broken. I go to my fathers. And even in their mighty company I shall not now be ashamed. I felled the black serpent. A grim morn, and a glad day, and a golden sunset!’ Merry could not speak, but wept anew. [Memory eternal.] -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:50, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- "Eh Ad, gizza job"... Martinevans123 (talk) 09:42, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
Brazil floods[edit]
Blurb: More than 83 people have been killed, 291 injured and 111 missing due to Floods in the Brazilian state of Rio Grande do Sul. (Post)
News source(s): BBC, Reuters, Al Jazeera, AP, Guardian, DW, VOA, CNN, NY Times
Credits:
- Nominated by Ainty Painty (talk · give credit)
- Created by Moondragon21 (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Oltrepier (talk · give credit), Hilst (talk · give credit) and Quake1234 (talk · give credit)
Ainty Painty (talk) 02:06, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Needs expansion, too short for right now. Masem (t) 02:24, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Wait article needs a expansion, when ready I'll will Support it. PrinceofPunjabTALK 04:00, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Wait. Page needs expansion and is too short for now, once it's done I'll support it. Duke of New Gwynedd (talk | contrib.) 12:14, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Wait article needs expansion. LiamKorda 15:17, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support if the article can be expanded. 2604:3D08:9476:BE00:340C:D133:72B6:623 (talk) 16:43, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Absolutely support it, however needs expanding. Glucoboy011 (talk) 16:28, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Article is probably big enough to be on the front page now. Glucoboy011 (talk) 19:27, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support as it's definitely notable enough: plus, I've just finished expanding the article by adding some more bits of information. Oltrepier (talk) 17:03, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support ArionStar (talk) 13:46, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
May 4[edit]
May 4, 2024
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(Posted) 2024 Kentucky Derby[edit]
Blurb: Mystik Dan wins the 2024 Kentucky Derby, defeating two others in a photo finish. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Mystik Dan wins the 2024 Kentucky Derby.
Alternative blurb II: Mystik Dan wins the 2024 Kentucky Derby in a photo finish.
News source(s): AP, ESPN, USA Today
Credits:
- Nominated by JRHorse (talk · give credit)
- Created by Kentuckian (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Brudder Andrusha (talk · give credit), Waluigithewalrus (talk · give credit), Blaylockjam10 (talk · give credit) and StefenTower (talk · give credit)
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
Nominating per WP:ITN/R. JRHorse (talk) 03:49, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support appears ready to me. PrinceofPunjabTALK 04:01, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support reading over, it looks like it has prose all where it needs it, and it's all properly cited. Of course, I hope editors that see new pieces to add will keep it up-to-date with the aftermath. Nottheking (talk) 04:05, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support original blurb It looks like it's good enough to post. Since this was the 1st 3-horse photo finish since 1947, the original blurb seems best. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 11:17, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Prefer Either Alt I get that the finish involved two others, but by virtue of it, he defeated 19 slower horses. InedibleHulk (talk) 11:31, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support looks good enough to me. Duke of New Gwynedd (talk | contrib.) 12:13, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support per above. LiamKorda 15:17, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support per above. 2604:3D08:9476:BE00:340C:D133:72B6:623 (talk) 16:47, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support per above LuxembourgBoy42 (talk) 20:56, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Posted Stephen 23:17, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
(Ready) RD: Frank Stella[edit]
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by ElijahPepe (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Carlstak (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Oppose there are several Cn tags.PrinceofPunjabTALK 04:03, 5 May 2024 (UTC)- No {cn} tags left. Is the intro still too short? Time for a re-review, please? --PFHLai (talk) 05:56, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support article is ready to posted, short intro shouldn't hold this article back. PrinceofPunjabTALK 09:46, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Darius Morris[edit]
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Laker NationBleacher ReportTMZ SportsNew York PostCBS SportsESPN
Credits:
- Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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NBA Player.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 18:59, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support it is a GA. PrinceofPunjabTALK 04:08, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support: As it has WP:GA status. Duke of New Gwynedd (talk | contrib.) 12:15, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment The career statistics table isn't sourced; I presume this is easily remedied. Black Kite (talk) 20:03, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Can you please take a look added Ref.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 23:15, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support To my recollection, this is the first biography that I have created and taken to WP:GA and seen listed here. I'm very saddened.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:50, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
May 3[edit]
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Chinese moon mission[edit]
Blurb: The first mission to recover samples from the dark side of the moon, Chang'e 6, is launched. (Post)
Alternative blurb: The China National Space Administration launches the Chang'e 6 spacecraft to retrieve a sample from the far side of the Moon.
News source(s): Al Jazeera, BBC, China Daily, CNN, NYT
Credits:
- Nominated by Andrew Davidson (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Nonovix (talk · give credit)
Article needs updating
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
The mission has various phases over 53 days. It has started and so is in the news. The article will need updating as it progresses and so might be a candidate for Ongoing in due course. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:28, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Ongoing Science! Article seems fine, except for a tweet being used as a source. Would be great to have an expected timeline of the mission. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 10:01, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support. The article is a bit light, but does meet our minimum requirements. This qualifies as ITNR. The originally suggested blurb is poor, I've added alt1. Modest Genius talk 10:53, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support alt1 which does not repeat the error of calling the Far Side the 'dark side', and is generally clearer. I'm personally not a fan of posting every space mission, but this is clearly within the ITNR parameters for them. GenevieveDEon (talk) 11:03, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose for now but Tentative support landing when that happens, though right now the article quality is not great for posting - its missing a lot of details we'd expect for a major space mission. This doesn't meet any of the ITNR for space exploration, but when it lands on the moon (and ideally, in working condition), then that is ITNR. I cannot find the timeline for this, but using Chang'e 4 as a reference, it will only take about 5-6 days to get to lunar orbit, but then at which point I dont know how long after it will take to land (Chang'e 4 took about 2 weeks from orbit to land). --Masem (t) 13:05, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Was that ITNR criterion changed at some point? I was convinced it covered both the launch and arrival of interplanetary missions, but you're right WP:ITNR doesn't actually say that. I'm happy with wait for landing if that's the consensus. Modest Genius talk 13:28, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- At one point I am pretty sure we have the first launches of any new type of rocket on there, but with commercial space activities now happening, I think we removed that. Even then, this would not have qualified as its not a new rocket. The probe is the newsworthy item and assuming a soft landing, it would be good for that, as well as successful end of mission (return to earth w/ samples) — Masem (t) 14:59, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Was that ITNR criterion changed at some point? I was convinced it covered both the launch and arrival of interplanetary missions, but you're right WP:ITNR doesn't actually say that. I'm happy with wait for landing if that's the consensus. Modest Genius talk 13:28, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per Masem; ITNR doesn't cover launches, only successful arrivals.
Arrival of spacecraft (to lunar orbit and beyond) at their destinations
Kcmastrpc (talk) 13:17, 3 May 2024 (UTC) - Wait until landing, if successful, per Masem and Kcmastrpc ✈ mike_gigs talkcontribs 13:37, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Weak support for blurb, stronger support for waiting for landing This is a notable event in space travel and for science in general, but I think the landing will be more suitable for the blurb. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 15:11, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Points arising
- The ITN/R issue is not important because items are not required to be ITN/R to be posted. For example, we're currently blurbing the Voyager update even though that's not ITN/R. The essential requirement is that the item is in the news and this moon shot is now the current news while the Voyager item is getting stale.
- The ultimate destination of this probe is back on Earth as the main idea is to gather samples and study them here. But we don't want to wait until everything is over. Waiting for the moon landing may be problematic technically as the landing is on the dark/far side and so will be done autonomously and so communications will presumably be difficult or delayed.
- The bottom line is that this item is international news now. Why can't we just do the obvious thing and post it now? Perfect is the enemy of good.
- Andrew🐉(talk) 17:31, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- The probe's destination is the moon, even if the ultimate destination is returning back to earth. Just because communication will be spotty doesn't mean the space agency won't know if it landed or not. — Masem (t) 13:14, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- The short of it is that it's gotten broad news, but it's been in the same category as China's prior two launches to the Moon that happened this same year. It's worth noting that the launch of IM-1 wasn't even nominated back on February 15. However, its landing on February 22 was nominated as ITN/R and quickly approved.
- Provided this mission lands on the Moon successfully, this will fare the same, quickly approved as ITN/R. (which is to be expected later this month) As this is a sample-return mission, this means that it would also be prime for an ITN spot in late June: not covered in ITN/R, but "returning a sample from the Moon to Earth" is substantial enough to be notable on its own. Meanwhile, a mere launch is not. So this mission is already on track for two separate ITN appearances; it doesn't need a third that may well still be on the board when the second happens. Nottheking (talk) 04:35, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support. The Voyager blurb is also pretty stale. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 20:42, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, we need some chang'e in the blurbs. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 21:20, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support but Far side and also mention that cubesat of Pakistan that also launched with it (ICUBE-Q) RΔ𝚉🌑R-𝕏 (talk) 11:37, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- Wait. The significant part of the mission is on the return aspect of it. If it successfully returns to earth with lunar samples from the far side, then I’d say it should be posted. RPH (talk) 13:13, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- Wait - the riskiest portion is the moon landing. The most interesting part is the return to earth. We should wait for one of those.
Separately, Oppose on quality; the article says the mission is 53 days, but details like "when is it expected to arrive/leave the moon's surface" are missing. 217.180.228.138 (talk) 23:32, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- Wait till it successfully returns to earth. PrinceofPunjabTALK 04:09, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Wait partly as per Masem. ITN/R hasn't covered this sort of event since it was first revised to actually specify individual criteria in October 2011. (before then it did cover all space launches, which only worked because almost no one was covering them... As well as there being far fewer) While there's been further revision, (especially starting in 2021, which gradually saw the initial 2011 list of 6 criteria gradually drop to just the 3 we have as of this writing) at no point in the past 13 years would this have qualified as ITN/R.
- Granted, a lot of folk forget that items that aren't ITN/R can be posted, even when they aren't mass casualty disasters. However, context is key, and this is not only the fifth launch of spacecraft intended for a lunar orbit or surface regime this year, but the third such Chinese launch this year. So the launch itself, if nominal, isn't going to be terribly noteworthy; in the mission's page it'll be limited to a sentence or two.
- However, I look forward to supporting this once it arrives on the surface the Moon, and again once it returns its sample to Earth. The former will be an ITN/R posting, the latter a posting that isn't ITN/R, but would most certainly merit sufficient notability on its own. Nottheking (talk) 04:22, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
RD: Kailash Chandra Gahtori[edit]
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Deccan Herald
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by Curbon7 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Indian politician. Always a bit sad to find out someone I wrote about died. Curbon7 (talk) 08:38, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support - article isn't huge but is sourced well enough ✈ mike_gigs talkcontribs 13:38, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support - Article seems to meet the minimum requirements. Solid sourcing, provides coverage of life and death. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 19:49, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Article lists election results but has no information about what he accomplished in his 5-year career as a politician. Could use some depth about his business career if that is something he is significantly notable for as well (all the article has at present is "Gahtori started a construction company" and "he came to own a hotel and two schools"). SpencerT•C 07:31, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
May 2[edit]
RD:Sjoukje Dijkstra[edit]
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NBC News
Credits:
- Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Dutch figure skater.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 21:31, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support article look good to me even though I would have expected a longer article for a Olympic Gold Medalist. PrinceofPunjabTALK 04:07, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support - looks good enough ✈ mike_gigs talkcontribs 13:41, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Outsanding Cn tags.—Bagumba (talk) 14:46, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD:Peter Oosterhuis[edit]
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian ,Golfweek
Credits:
- Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Nigej (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
British Golfer.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 16:53, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Almost ready the orange tag in Broadcasting career section needs to be fixed. PrinceofPunjabTALK 04:05, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support - article has been updated ✈ mike_gigs talkcontribs 13:43, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Posted to RD. SpencerT•C 07:28, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
(Updated) Jeremiah Manele[edit]
Blurb: Following the Solomon Islands general election, Jeremiah Manele succeeds Manasseh Sogavare as the Prime Minister of Solomon Islands. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Jeremiah Manele is elected as the Prime Minister of Solomon Islands.
News source(s): AP, Reuters
Credits:
- Nominated by Classicwiki (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Borgenland (talk · give credit), Cbls1911 (talk · give credit) and Selzie 777 (talk · give credit)
The current ITN blurb on the 2024 Solomon Islands general election is now stale and somewhat misleading. Jeremiah Manele is now the prime minister. This could just be an update to the current blurb. The Jeremiah Manele is just a stub though (at the time of this nomination), which is a problem. -- Classicwiki (talk) 08:07, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Update existing blurb, with just the elections article in bold. Manele's article is in no state for a bold link, but the election article does discuss him becoming prime minister (in the 'aftermath') section. Modest Genius talk 10:54, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Update existing blurb bolding only the elections article, as Manele article does not meet WP:ITNQUALITY. Also, as per WP:EASTEREGG, we should just link to Prime Minister of Solomon Islands directly rather than Prime Minister of Solomon Islands. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:08, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Update existing blurb I agree that it is rather misleading, especially since the current blurb says that Sogavare led the party, the short descriptions of Sogavare and Manele are already updated so it makes since to update the blurb Normalman101 (talk) 15:00, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Updated current blurb. – robertsky (talk) 16:37, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment @Classicwiki, Modest Genius, Joseph2302, and Normalman101: Jeremiah Manele has been expanded. It can be bolded once its vetted.—Bagumba (talk) 03:42, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- There's one {{cn}}, but yes that looks good enough to bold now. Thanks! Modest Genius talk 10:29, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
(Closed) Colombia israel relations[edit]
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Blurb: Colombia officially severs relations with Israel due to the Israel–Hamas war. (Post)
News source(s): al jaz
Credits:
- Nominated by 37.252.81.135 (talk · give credit)
- Comment Colombia–Israel relations would be a better target article. However currently the update is just one sentence, which isn't sufficient. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 08:56, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Covered by ongoing --Masem (t) 11:58, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose yes, covered by ongoing. _-_Alsor (talk) 13:29, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Covered by ongoing. Also, wouldn't the ECP restriction apply here? Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 13:42, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per above ✈ mike_gigs talkcontribs 13:51, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose: Already covered by ongoing. Duke of New Gwynedd (talk | contrib.) 15:23, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
May 1[edit]
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(Posted)RD: Lyle Bauer[edit]
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBC News; Winnipeg Blue Bombers; Global News
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Bloom6132 (talk) 14:09, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support article seems ready to be posted. PrinceofPunjabTALK 04:03, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
RD:Richard Tandy[edit]
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:
- Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
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Needs some work.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 10:05, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose orange tag and several cn tags. PrinceofPunjabTALK 04:01, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
(Closed) Loblaw boycott begins in Canada[edit]
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Blurb: Canadians begin a month-long boycott against Loblaw, the largest grocery retail corporation in the country. (Post)
Alternative blurb: A country-wide boycott begins against Loblaw, the largest grocery retail corporation in Canada.
News source(s): CBC, The Globe And Mail, Global News, CTV Atlantic/CTV Ottawa, The Canadian Press (published by CTV News, Calgary Herald, etc.
Credits:
- Created and nominated by B3251 (talk · give credit)
Notable and scheduled month-long boycotting campaign against Canada's largest grocery retail corporation, starting from Reddit. B3251 (talk) 08:27, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Merely stating an intention to boycott a particular store doesn't mean it will actually occur on a widespread scale. The most likely outcome is that a handful of people avoid shopping at the company's stores, while life will carry on as normal for everyone else. In the absence of objective proof that the company experiences a sustained (multi-week) significant decline in sales, this is not worthy of a blurb. Chrisclear (talk) 11:08, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Likewise. The artilce is reeks of NOTNEWS and CRYSTALBALL. it is the 2nd of May and barely sunrise there.37.252.95.154 (talk) 11:11, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose: it's questionable whether the subject even deserves its own article (it could probably be described in a paragraph in the Loblaw Companies article), or whether the boycott will be at all significant (much as we're frustrated by high grocery prices, we still need to eat). --RFBailey (talk) 11:24, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. I too am surprised we even have an article about the intentions of Reddit users. Even if all 60,000 genuinely stop shopping there for a month, Loblaws will barely notice. If this somehow has major impacts (e.g. bankrupts the chain or causes major social unrest) then I'll be willing to reassess, but so far the impact is zero and likely to remain that way. Is the boycott against Loblaw Companies, as linked in the proposed blurb, or just the Loblaws supermarkets? Modest Genius talk 11:33, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- I understand the concerns as well as the opposition towards nominating for ITN, but I support this being a standalone article. It's received pretty adequate coverage in the few months leading up to the boycott and it's definitely one of the most established consumer boycott movements directly related to the 2021–2023 inflation surge and in the 2020s overall outside of the American conservative-led Bud Light and Target Pride Month boycotts/backlash movements. B3251 (talk) 13:03, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose, and article should be merged into Loblaw unless the boycott gains serious traction. --Masem (t) 11:59, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- This kind of article is probably best featured when the event concludes. This is also when our article on it will be at its best state, and when the exact impact is clearest. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 13:32, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose - can see this article headed to AfD ✈ mike_gigs talkcontribs 13:53, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose - Dreadful blurb, it comes across as trying to handwave the limited scope of the protest by simply saying "Canadians begin a boycott". How many? 50? 500? 500,000? Who knows? Duly signed, ⛵ WaltClipper -(talk) 15:39, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose irrelevant for ITN. Per all above. _-_Alsor (talk) 15:44, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
RD:Uma Ramanan[edit]
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Hindu
Credits:
- Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Indian singer.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 22:03, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose - List of "major hits" is unreferenced, immediately preceding citation goes to a dead link. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 22:18, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose there are some claims that are unsourced. PrinceofPunjabTALK 03:23, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
RD/Blurb:Duane Eddy[edit]
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb: Influential rock guitarist, Duane Eddy dies at age 86 (Post)
News source(s): Guitar World, NYT, Variety
Credits:
- Nominated by Andrew Davidson (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Humbledaisy (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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The article needs more work but the first guitar hero already has a Legacy section which makes a start at showing his considerable influence. The NYT explains that "Mr. Eddy had tremendous success as a strictly instrumental recording artist in the late 1950s and ’60s, selling millions of records worldwide with growling, echo-laden hits like “Rebel Rouser” and “Forty Miles of Bad Road.” In the process, he played a major role in establishing electric guitar as the predominant musical instrument in rock ’n’ roll. Mr. Eddy influenced a multitude of rock guitarists, including George Harrison, Jimi Hendrix and Bruce Springsteen..." Andrew🐉(talk) 22:33, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Could Andrew possibly explain why he thinks the person is blurb worthy? No number-1 hits anywhere, not a Jimi Hendrix type, the "legacy" section is just some random name-dropping. 217.180.228.138 (talk) 21:30, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose RD on quality, lots of unsourced material. Oppose blurb the article is begging to explain the type of influence he might have - just saying other musicians found him an influence doesn't make him a great figure in terms of modern music. Masem (t) 22:50, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose RD various unsourced paragraphs. Oppose blurb he was not a household name and I do not seem to find anything why he should be blurbed. PrinceofPunjabTALK 03:21, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose RD on quality, oppose blurb per above. Not even the article makes a case as to why he's blurb-worthy. The Kip 03:57, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose blurb on principle against them This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 05:15, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Unreliable source WP:ALLMUSIC needs replacement.—Bagumba (talk) 07:29, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose RD due to many unreliable sources (Discogs, IMDB, AllMusic, ...). Oppose blurb, not a household name and not a significant death. The Legacy section listing people "acknowledging Eddy's influence" is extremely vague and not very encyclopedic. Also, "influential" is WP:PEACOCK and shouldn't be used as a descriptor, especially on the main page. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 12:30, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Blurb inb4 "two wrongs don't make a right", but Little Richard was scandalously posted as RD only despite his immense influence on the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin and Prince inter alia. (check the length and detail of his legacy section vis-a-vis Mr Eddy's). If that fell below the bar of an influential musician, then the bar is very high. Unknown Temptation (talk) 09:38, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, indeed, the bar for death blurbs is very high. That's how it works. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 12:56, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD:Terry Medwin[edit]
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC, Tottenham Hotspur
Credits:
- Nominated by Govvy (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Welsh, Swansea and Tottenham Hotspur football player.Govvy (talk) 12:32, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support Just added citations for the Honours section, the only uncited section. MAINEiac4434 (talk) 16:33, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support - I've cited the last uncited sentence (Swans appearances). Rest looks good. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 22:23, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support article appears ready to be posted. PrinceofPunjabTALK 03:24, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Posted—Bagumba (talk) 02:59, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
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